Billy Bragg & Martin Smith: Politics of National Identity
medi | Mar 30, 2010 | Comments 25
www.socialistworker.co.uk Billy Bragg and Martin Smith debate whether British identity can be “reclaimed” for anti-fascism. Debate took place at Marxism 2007, the summer conference of the Socialist Workers Party. The event is held every year in central London
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@warriorprince1010
Politics is a circle and the far right and far left do, I agree meet at some point….
@warriorprince1010
Brown is more a careerist than a dedicated and principled politician. He stepped aside to allow the Nu Labour takeover of the party and betrayed Labour voters old or new alike
BNP are socialists like Billy Bragg, BBC, Mandelson and Brown.
Brown is old labour, new labour were centralist and Brown is old labour radical far left.
100% true.
The EU,Brown BBC pact are marxists and are hell bent on creating wealth for themselves and poverty for the masses, that is socialism.
The UK economy cannot grow due to the anti business 50% tax and massive borrowing.
You twat. Why did we fight Hitler? Why didn’t we just allow the Germans to flood into our country, force us to call them ‘English’, and allow them to get us sacked from our jobs, or imprisoned, for objecting to their presence?
You idiots can’t even think for yourselves.
MOST white people want to live in all white countries…
Marxism was the seed of most of the mass-murders in the 20th century. It has been tried and tested in dozens of countries and invariably leads to totalitarianism. “Marxism is the answer” for those who would murder and oppress millions of people.
@LOWLON
Bloody great post. Couldn’t agree more.
good honest post
No problem with Billy living in Dorset Anthony, its a lovely part of the UK. its not exactly multicultral central thought is it. Billy sings a good song about enriched multicultral UK , but wants it for you and me, he prefers to live amongst good white folk in the west country.
good posting, you sound like someone who also lived through the Thatcher/major years? New Labour was supposed to be the wind of change. Billy bragg has moved to the west country into the green landscape. I would like to do the same so make no criticism. I just wonder if its for the same reasons as me though.
LOW LON the Union Flag was long gone from Barcelona by the time Mola and co marched in, and the British battalion of international brigades was disbanded before madrid fell, learn your history before harping on with your empty cliches, I cxan recommend a good book if you wish to learn….. or google Spanish Civil War at least!
The ’socialist agenda’ is what has divided the working classes in UK, and is led from the middle classes who have hijacked socialism. Socialism is a failed ideaology because of human nature, look at EVERY socialist/communist who has gained a position of power, Once their noses are in the trough (New Labour) their beliefs seem to disappear The left-wing in the UK is led by the middle class chattering classes and people like Smith, Bragg etc are just the puppets of the ruling (middle) classes
Billy Speaks for the youth of the commonwealth… We AREN’T ashamed of our BRITISH ancestory… The REASON we are involved in UNIONS, ANTI-FASCIST ACTION, and PROGRESSIVE PATRIOTISM is because we believe that the BRITISH ideology of A UNION of IDENTITIES!!!
As a BRITISH – CANADIAN, we have the same ideas, and beliefs… REMEMBER… NAZIS, AND FASCISTS WORLDWIDE FEAR ONE FLAG…THE FLAG THAT NEVER GAVE IN…THE FLAG AGAINST ALL ODDS FOUGHT BACK… THE UNION JACK!!! AT NORMANDY OR BARCELONA….
Martin Smith is a fool. UAF and the Socialists really need to get a better speaker than this guy. He is laughable. Bragg is impressive though
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swp become so engrossed in racism that they forget the class struggle which is the root of racism- they’d have you voting the tories inseatd of the BNP- they don’t propose the socialist agenda in these campaigns, and consequently allow the root of racism to manifest from below
he quotes Trotsky who talked of ” acquianting fascist’s heads with the pavement ” i.e defeating the threat of fascism physically as well as politically
what does he say at 2:46 when hes quoting trotsky?
I notice that this video has suffered a Nazi invasion: all the anti-nazi comments and pro-marxist comments have been voted down, and all the fascist comments have been voted up. Why don’t we go and do the opposite on all the nazi/fascist videos? Better yet, why don’t we pay those psychopaths at Stormfront a visit, and harass them (seriously, they deserve it? Let’s have our first victory over fascism by expelling it from cyberspace.
that’s right!
You should go and tell that to the indigenous aborigines in australia, the americans, canadians, south africans. the british flag has a history of colonial rule, rape and mass murder, martin smith was telling the truth,your just too stupid to realise that
‘we’re not here to discuss Billys music or political commitment’, thank god for that, I think I’ll stay.
BNP = 2 EU seats
Socialist Workers Party = zero
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The first guy is great. He knows man. Marxism is the answer.